[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Dual Language Data

[Noah Huffman]

Hi Christine,
Chiming in late to this, but this would be extremely valuable in our context. We are increasingly doing multi-lingual description and modeling this data in ArchivesSpace has been a bit of a challenge so far. For notes, we record each language in a separate note subrecord (works OK), but for titles our workaround has been to add an additional note subrecord on the Archival Object with a label like "Title (Chinese)."  Occasionally, we've just crammed both languages into the same title field separated with pipe characters (not my favorite approach).
Ultimately, as Scott suggested, we'd love some sort of togglable front-end where a user could select their preferred display language.  Or, languages could be displayed based on a user's browser language setting. EAD3 has some facility for handling multi-lingual description, but ASpace EAD3 exports can't really take advantage of this.
Here are links to some of our published multilingual finding aids just to give you a sense of the variety of multi-lingual description. We manage this description in ArchivesSpace, but don't currently use the ArchivesSpace public interface.
Radio Haiti (collection description in English, French, Creole): https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/radiohaiti/
Heschel (collection description in English, Hebrew): https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/heschelabraham/
Shockley (item-level photos described in English and Chinese): https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/shockleywilliamh/
-Noah

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Noah Huffman
Archivist for Metadata, Systems, and Digital Records
David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library
Duke University | 919-660-5982
http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/


From: archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> On Behalf Of Christine Di Bella
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Subject: Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Dual Language Data

Hi all,

I'm very interested in discussion of the underlying issues as well as whether people have done anything to work around ArchivesSpace's limitations in this area. (I'm fact, I recently created a Jira ticket for something in this area based on other inquiries: https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-957<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__archivesspace.atlassian.net_browse_ANW-2D957&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=cnNHeIkbJRrRCjCkAuEdvSYHTO9vm-YoBMkSRLJlZIQ&e=>.) As I mention in that ticket, because of the repeatability of sub-records doing description in multiple languages is possible in some areas of ArchivesSpace but not all, and there is not way for our current EAD exports (either EAD2002 or EAD3) or other outputs to distinguish between the different languages. How many of you work in contexts where this would be valuable (or even required) for individual collections, to work with different service populations or for your local or national context?

Christine

Christine Di Bella
ArchivesSpace Program Manager
christine.dibella at lyrasis.org<mailto:christine.dibella at lyrasis.org>
800.999.8558 x2905
678-235-2905
cdibella13 (Skype)

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Subject: Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Dual Language Data

I would imagine it would require a major overhaul or fork of ArchivesSpace to make it capable of capturing two or more translations of everything in a single record. The data model<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_archivesspace_archivesspace_tree_master_common_schemas&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=TG5UzSFotFC2wJfEivQ1QbNikE1XTTAj4cYtcbmKR4A&e=> is close to the EAD 2002 schema, which isn't multilingual in this sense (unlike, say, the manuscript description module of the TEI schema<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.tei-2Dc.org_release_doc_tei-2Dp5-2Ddoc_en_html_MS.html&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=Xrz9ORVm6mx5TzauJKunMBVqSbZyvQ-uxOIYMl2edbE&e=>.)

Andrew.


On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 12:30 +0000, RENTON Scott wrote:
Hi folks

Wondering if anyone can help with a challenge I've been set. I've got a task to investigate how easily we could populate a togglable English-Scottish Gaelic front end supplied by Archives Space data (through either the SOLR index or the API- we've built a few single-language sites which interrogate ArchivesSpace SOLR).

I know that language can be captured when cataloguing, but would I be right in saying there is no way of capturing the same data in multiple languages (i.e. can I catalogue a title for a resource twice, once in English, and once in Gaelic, and would the link, that they are 'the same thing' be preserved?)?

The current website is a bespoke postgres db, which can do this. We want to migrate the users over to ArchivesSpace, and I'm pretty sure it can handle everything, but this would be a sticking point if it's not possible.

Cheers
Scott




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