[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Finding aid title vs. finding aid filing title

Fri Jun 24 13:05:07 EDT 2016

Donnelly,

I created a JIRA ticket (AR-1516
<https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/AR-1516>) for this issue if
you'd like to add any comments.

Helen

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Walton, Donnelly <dfwalton at ua.edu> wrote:

> Helen,
>
>
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> Yes.  You’re correct.  Our finding aid titles all start with “Guide to
> the” then the resource title.  Our filing title is usually just the
> person’s name.  I also prefer the user to never see a filing title; it’s
> simply what our Digital Services department uses to create alphabetized
> lists of finding aids.  My staff & students (there are about 14 of us) have
> all said they hate seeing the filing title displayed internally in the
> browse lists.
>
>
>
> Donnelly
>
>
>
> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:
> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Helen
> Thomas
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 10:12 AM
>
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Finding aid title vs. finding
> aid filing title
>
>
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> I think I see what you're saying Donnelly. In our records, the
> collection/resource title and finding aid title are the same - if the
> collection title is "Marion Basset Papers" then the finding aid title is
> "Marion Basset Papers," not "Finding Aid for Marion Basset Papers," as
> others might list it.
>
>
>
> In your example, you have "Bank, Harold" listed after "Bank of the State
> of Alabama, Huntsville Branch." If I'm getting it right this time, you want
> your resource list to show "Harold Bank Papers" following "Bank of the
> State of Alabama Huntsville Branch Records" (or whatever your collection
> titles may be), and for the EAD and PDF finding aids to display "Guide to
> the Harold Bank Papers." Is that right? If so, then ultimately we want the
> same thing, and I would also support showing the resource title in search
> results or browse lists and the finding aid title on finding aids. I would
> prefer for a user to never see a filing title at all.
>
>
>
> Helen
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>
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Walton, Donnelly <dfwalton at ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Helen and everyone,
>
>
>
> Now that I’ve read the JIRA ticket you referenced and re-read your
> message, I should change to say that  I would like to see 1) the finding
> aid title, not the filing title, displayed on the finding aid page (EAD)
>  and PDF.  Within ArchivesSpace  results or browse lists we don’t really
> care to display the finding aid title—we just want to see the resource
> title.  We don’t care as much about the filing title as apparently other
> people do—our wish is that we can customize the display as we could in AT.
>
>
>
> In the attached image we see the label as “Title,” but it’s actually
> displaying the filing title.  We want to be able to display the real
> collection title.  That’s not an option under User Preferences.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donnelly
>
>
>
> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:
> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Walton,
> Donnelly
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 9:17 AM
>
>
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Finding aid title vs. finding
> aid filing title
>
>
>
> Helen,
>
>
>
> Yes, that’s exactly it.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> Donnelly
>
>
>
> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [
> mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org
> <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org>] *On Behalf Of *Helen
> Thomas
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 8:55 AM
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Finding aid title vs. finding
> aid filing title
>
>
>
> Hi Donnelly,
>
>
>
> We have that same issue. It appears that having a filing title overrides
> any finding aid title displayed in the public view. It looks like part of
> this was addressed in a JIRA ticket before (AR-759
> <https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/AR-759>), where the PUI
> switched from sorting by resource/finding aid titles to sorting by filing
> titles.
>
>
>
> Correct me if this is not what you're after, but I would like to see 1)
> the finding aid title, not the filing title, displayed on the finding aid
> page and PDF, and 2) if possible, for resource lists to sort by the filing
> title but display the finding aid title.
>
>
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Walton, Donnelly <dfwalton at ua.edu> wrote:
>
> We recently migrated from AT.  We’ve noticed in our PDFs and  EADs that
> the finding aid filing title is showing up where we’d like the finding aid
> title to  display.  After a quick test, I found that when the filing title
> field is null, the finding aid title does show up.   We’d like to have
> both, but having the filing title rather than the finding aid title
>  display is problematic.  In addition, in the resource lists (browsing and
> search results) the filing title displays instead of the resource title
> itself.  Again, if we delete the filing title, the collection title
> displays.
>
>
>
> Is anyone else having this problem? Is there any way to solve it?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donnelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Donnelly Lancaster Walton*
>
> Archival Access Coordinator, Division of Special Collections
>
> University Libraries
> The University of Alabama <https://www.ua.edu/>
> W. S. Hoole Library, Mary Harmon Bryant Hall
> Box 870266
> Tuscaloosa, AL 35487
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> *Helen Thomas*
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