[Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and Sorting Issue

[Andrew Morrison]

I forgot to mention that you probably have to re-index after changing 
schema.xml and reloading the core.

Andrew.


On 28/04/2022 10:51, 松山 ひとみ wrote:
>
> Thanks again Andrew!
>
> We’ll try applying what you gave to our current AS.
>
> Hitomi
>
> *From:*archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org 
> <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> *On Behalf 
> Of *Andrew Morrison
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2022 6:09 PM
> *To:* archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and Sorting Issue
>
> If you're using the schema.xml that came with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1 in 
> your external Solr 8.11, then it will still define the "sort_icu" 
> fieldType as an instance of the solr.TextField class. If you look 
> below that, there is a commented-out alternative fieldType definition 
> which is an instance of solr.ICUCollationField. ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 
> has changed to that (because it no longer has to support the 
> previously-built-in Solr 4.10) but you don't need to upgrade to it, 
> you can just edit your schema.xml, then reload the Solr core. See the 
> link in my previous email for help on how to set that up to be 
> optimized for Japanese characters.
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 28/04/2022 09:44, 松山 ひとみwrote:
>
>     Thank you Andrew!
>
>     Our IT says we’ve already been using an external Solr 8.11 with
>     ArchivesSpace 3.0.1, not the one built-in.
>
>     We’re thinking of upgrading our AS to 3.2.0. Do you think we will
>     get a better result?
>
>     Hitomi
>
>     *From:*archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org
>     <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
>     <mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
>     *On Behalf Of *Andrew Morrison
>     *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:47 PM
>     *To:* archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org
>     *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI Ordering and
>     Sorting Issue
>
>     Are you using the built-in Solr search engine that comes with
>     ArchivesSpace 3.0.1? If so, your sorting problems could be because
>     it uses a very old version, because newer ones aren't compatible
>     with the method of embedding it in a bigger application. But there
>     is the option to configure ArchivesSpace to use an external Solr
>     service:
>
>     https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html
>
>     That allows you to run a more up-to-date version, which would
>     enable use of the solr.ICUCollationField class for sort fields.
>     That can be adjusted to sort different languages according to
>     their own sorting rules, as described here:
>
>     https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation
>
>     ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 removes the built-in Solr, so running an
>     external Solr service will be necessary if you upgrade in the future.
>
>     As for adding the option to sort on identifiers, I don't think
>     there is a configuration option or simple interface for adding
>     them. But it would probably be possible to develop a plug-in to
>     override certain Ruby methods in the core code to do it.
>
>     Andrew.
>
>     On 27/04/2022 11:04, 松山 ひとみwrote:
>
>         Hello all,
>
>         We’ve been stuck in the “ordering and sorting” issue in
>         [~/repositories/resources]. Our AS is version 3.0.1.
>
>         Presumably, because we use Japanese Character, our resource
>         list cannot be displayed in a right, alphabetical order when
>         sorted by Title.
>
>         Could we add Identifier to the category of sorting;
>         Relevance/Title(Asc/Desc)/Year(Asc/Desc), as alternative?
>
>         We’d very much appreciate you helping solve our issue!
>
>         All the best,
>
>         Hitomi Matsuyama, Audiovisual Archivist
>
>         Nakanoshima Museum of Art, Osaka
>
>         4-3-1 Nakanoshima, Kita-ku
>
>         Osaka 530-0005 JAPAN
>
>         tel. +81 (0)6 64 79 05 58
>
>         email. matsuyama-h at nakka-art.jp <mailto:matsuyama-h at nakka-art.jp>
>
>
>
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