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<p>I forgot to mention that you probably have to re-index after
changing schema.xml and reloading the core.</p>
<p>Andrew.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/04/2022 10:51, 松山 ひとみ wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Thanks again Andrew!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’ll try applying what you gave to our current
AS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hitomi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org"><archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Andrew Morrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 6:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI
Ordering and Sorting Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">If you're using the schema.xml that came
with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1 in your external Solr 8.11, then it
will still define the "sort_icu" fieldType as an instance of
the solr.TextField class. If you look below that, there is a
commented-out alternative fieldType definition which is an
instance of solr.ICUCollationField. ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 has
changed to that (because it no longer has to support the
previously-built-in Solr 4.10) but you don't need to upgrade
to it, you can just edit your schema.xml, then reload the
Solr core. See the link in my previous email for help on how
to set that up to be optimized for Japanese characters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 28/04/2022 09:44, </span>松山
ひとみ<span lang="EN-US"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Thank you Andrew!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Our IT says we’ve already been using an
external Solr 8.11 with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1, not the one
built-in.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’re thinking of upgrading our AS to 3.2.0.
Do you think we will get a better result?
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hitomi</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>
<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Morrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI
Ordering and Sorting Issue</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Are you using the built-in Solr search
engine that comes with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1? If so, your
sorting problems could be because it uses a very old
version, because newer ones aren't compatible with the
method of embedding it in a bigger application. But there
is the option to configure ArchivesSpace to use an
external Solr service:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">That allows you to run a more up-to-date
version, which would enable use of the
solr.ICUCollationField class for sort fields. That can be
adjusted to sort different languages according to their
own sorting rules, as described here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 removes the built-in
Solr, so running an external Solr service will be
necessary if you upgrade in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">As for adding the option to sort on
identifiers, I don't think there is a configuration option
or simple interface for adding them. But it would probably
be possible to develop a plug-in to override certain Ruby
methods in the core code to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 27/04/2022 11:04,
</span>松山 ひとみ<span lang="EN-US"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hello all,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’ve been stuck in the “ordering and
sorting” issue in [~/repositories/resources]. Our AS is
version 3.0.1.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Presumably, because we use Japanese
Character, our resource list cannot be displayed in a
right, alphabetical order when sorted by Title.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Could we add Identifier to the category of
sorting; Relevance/Title(Asc/Desc)/Year(Asc/Desc), as
alternative?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’d very much appreciate you helping solve
our issue!
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">All the best,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hitomi Matsuyama, Audiovisual Archivist</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Nakanoshima Museum of Art, Osaka</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">4-3-1 Nakanoshima, Kita-ku</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Osaka 530-0005 JAPAN</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">tel. +81 (0)6 64 79 05 58</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">email.
<a href="mailto:matsuyama-h@nakka-art.jp" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">matsuyama-h@nakka-art.jp</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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