[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Multiselect Ordering

Allyson Smally asmally at colgate.edu
Thu Aug 13 12:32:23 EDT 2015


This was actually the issue I had just noticed here at Colgate.
Thank you for the explanation - I understand now, although it is not really
a functionality I would have expected if you had not brought it to our
attention.

- Allyson

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick <
Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Just a quick note related to the reordering issues...
>
>
> One thing I've notice that some people are not aware of is that the
> multiselect batch moves depend on the order in which you multiselect. For
> example, if you first select an Archival Object and shift select several
> records above it, then move those records in a block, you're block will be
> moved in inverted order.
>
>
> For example:
>
>
> AO 1
>
> AO 2
>
> AO 3
>
> AO 4
>
> AO 5
>
>
> If I select AO 4, then shift select AO 3 and AO 2 and move them to above
> AO 1, my result will be:
>
>
> AO 4
>
> AO 3
>
> AO 2
>
> AO 1
>
> AO 5
>
>
> The same is for ctl- select. The block you're moving depends on the order
> you select. This is the intended functionality...
>
> Does this explanation make sense?
>
>
> best ,chris.
> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
> http://archivesspace.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Chris Fitzpatrick
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:33 PM
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>
>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
>
> Sure, I guess I would start out again by just mentioning again that part
> of the problem with this problem is that it's not a problem, but rather a
> series of problems. We've been closing out a lot of the issues, but since
> there's so much going on in ArchivesSpace, it's really dependent on a lot
> of factors.
>
>
> So, it's really helpful to know a few things...one would be a general
> description of the record ( Accession? Resource? Digital Object? Archival
> Object? Digital Object Component? Classification? ). And especially the
> size of the records involved ( especially the number of records you tried
> to move and how many siblings that record has ).
>
>
> Also good to know if your data was imported from an EAD, migrated from
> Archon/AT, or made from scratch in the application. Also good to know if
> you've done any transfers for this data ( although these issues have been
> mostly fixed, I believe ).
>
>
> It's also helpful to know what the user did. Did they click on one record
> and try and move it or Was it a multiselected batch? Was the multiselect a
> shift- multiselect or a ctl- multiselect? Did you start from the top and go
> down on the multiselect or from the bottom and then go up? If it was a ctl-
> multiselect, what order did you select the records? (more on this in a
> followup email ) Did you move the record(s) down the list in the same
> series or up the list in the same series? Or did you re-parent the records
> into a new series?
>
>
> And it's really helpful if you can replicate this somewhere we can look at
> the records. Like in the sandbox or test.archivesspace.org.
>
> Also very helpful if people can test out changes we've made on the dev
> releases prior to the version release.
>
>
> We have people on the TAC and UAC testing this out, so if people want to
> volunteer to test, I think they would be welcome.
>
>
> And, of course, it would be really great it the community could start
> troubleshooting locally and producing code fixes ( or at least tests )  and
> sending in pull-requests.
>
>
> In regards to tracking, I'd mention we do have a Jira issue tracker,  but
> I'd leave it to the community to decide what's the best way to track these
> kinds of support issues...
>
>
>
> b,chris.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
> http://archivesspace.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of Ben
> Goldman <bmg17 at psu.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:35 PM
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Could you just take a moment to lay out for us what specific information
> is required to troubleshoot this issue, so we can all start
> collecting/sharing data in a helpful way? What specific information about
> the server environment do you need to know? And how would you like us to
> share what the data looks like? Would attaching an XML version of the
> record suffice?
>
> And is there a better way to collect this data from the institutions
> experiencing this issue than the listserv? I think it may be worth looking
> for ways we as a community can start working more stridently toward a
> solution on this. It's disconcerting this issue has lingered through
> several versions of ASpace especially since, as Emma suggested, this
> issue is kind of a deal-breaker when encountered. It not only stifles work,
> it also creates distrust by users working in the system, which works
> against our efforts to advocate for ASpace locally at our institutions, and
> more broadly in the archives community.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> *Ben Goldman*
> Digital Records Archivist &
> Sally W. Kalin Early Career Librarian for Technological Innovations
> Penn State University Libraries
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Chris Fitzpatrick" <Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org>
> *To: *"Archivesspace Users Group" <
> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:09:46 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>
> Hi Lora,
>
>
> Thanks. One thing to keep in mind is that LYRASIS hosting is separate from
> the ArchivesSpace, so if you're having problems with the application, you
> should send that information to the ArchivesSpace project team if you want
> support from us on it ( "us" being ArchivesSpace and not LYRASIS ).
>
>
> Also, going through all these "reordering issues", one of the problems
> with troubleshooting this has been it is heavily depending on how the data
> is structured, what user is doing, and the server environment. So, it's
> really helpful to get a description of what the data looks like, what
> actions the user was doing, and your server environment ( in your case,
> you're hosted, which is enough information ).
>
>
> best, chris.
>
>
> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
> http://archivesspace.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
> Lora Davis <ljdavis at colgate.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:59 PM
> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>
> All,
>
> Just a quick between-meetings post to note that we at Colgate (Lyrasis
> hosted) are also seeing a reappearance of this component reordering
> trouble.  Our Processing Archivist will contribute a longer post detailing
> the issues she's had (including a new behavior we've never encountered
> before) later today, but for now I wanted to jump in and say "us too."
>
> As a hosted instance we have also reported these issues to Lyrasis as well.
>
> Best,
>
> Lora
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick <
> Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>>
>> It's on the MySQL server that there's usually a bottleneck. What are the
>> setting there?
>>
>>
>> Also, it's probably a good idea to try out the dev releases and see if
>> you run into these issues. You can download the latest here:
>>
>> https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/releases
>> <https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/releases>
>> Releases · archivesspace/archivesspace · GitHub
>> archivesspace - The ArchivesSpace archives management tool
>> Read more... <https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/releases>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> b,chris.
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
>> Galligan, Patrick <PGalligan at rockarch.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:58 PM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
>> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll chime in and say that reordering has continued with the update to
>> 1.3.0. I have not resequenced since the upgrade, which MIGHT fix the
>> problem, but two archivists have identified that it still happens at the
>> RAC. Sometimes the finding aids are large, but sometimes they are just
>> medium sized.
>>
>>
>>
>> We only have AS running on our VM, and it should have plenty of ram. See
>> top information below:
>>
>>
>>
>> top - 08:56:43 up 44 days, 23:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.36, 0.11, 0.03
>>
>> Tasks: 181 total,   1 running, 180 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
>>
>> Cpu(s):  0.2%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.8%id,  0.2%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
>> 0.0%st
>>
>> Mem:  10131060k total,  9929312k used,   201748k free,   106888k buffers
>>
>> Swap:  6160376k total,    30592k used,  6129784k free,  7918028k cached
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick Galligan
>>
>> Rockefeller Archive Center
>>
>> Assistant Digital Archivist
>>
>> 914-366-6386
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris
>> Fitzpatrick
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:38 AM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group (
>> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org)
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in
>> Re-Ordering of components - Critical
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Emma,
>>
>>
>>
>> How much RAM do you have for the application and for the MySQL server?
>> When reordering components with lots of siblings ( hundreds or thousands ),
>> the positions of all the sibling components need to be updated. If you're
>> running into a bottle neck on the server, this can timeout and cause the
>> reordering to be incomplete.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is some documentation on performance here :
>> http://archivesspace.github.io/archivesspace/
>>
>>
>>
>> I've recently added some code that freezes the tree until the move
>> operation has been completed, which should help with this problem. Closing
>> the record does not actually do anything other than change the browser's
>> page. If you refresh the page, it will refresh the tree as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> b,chris.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
>> Emma Jolley <EJOLLEY at nla.gov.au>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:50 AM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group (
>> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org)
>> *Subject:* [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Continuing Problem in Re-Ordering
>> of components - Critical
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear ArchivesSpace
>>
>>
>>
>> We are continuing to encounter the component re-ordering problem when we
>> edit resources even though we have recently upgraded to the latest version
>> of ArchivesSpace.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, we created a new resource record by importing an EAD XML
>> finding aid to ArchivesSpace.  We then started editing the resource record,
>> creating new components and moving existing components around the component
>> hierarchy.  Screenshots of the edited version, prior to closing the
>> resource record, are attached (Set 1).  As soon as the resource record was
>> closed, many of the components re-ordered themselves (see screenshots Set
>> 2).
>>
>>
>>
>> We then tried re-re-ordering the components, one change at a time (Edit -
>> change – Close, Edit – change – Close, etc.).  Following this method, the
>> preferred order of components did seem to ‘stick’.  However, this is not a
>> viable solution as this adds significantly to the time required to make
>> even minor changes to resource records and will greatly hamper our use of
>> ArchivesSpace for resource description and is virtually impossible when
>> dealing with some of our larger collections which have thousands of
>> components in them.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is extremely frustrating and means that we are unable to undertake
>> any detailed work or data entry at component level of Resource Records as
>> it is too difficult to use. This is a *critical* *problem* for us as we
>> are currently in a massive finding-aid project that requires extensive work
>> on resource records.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there any advice on the delivery of a solution to this problem? It
>> seems to have been around for a long time and we would be extremely
>> grateful to see an urgent solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be happy to log this as a Bug if someone could send me advice on
>> how to do so.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Emma
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Emma Jolley*| Curator of Digital Archives, Pictures and Manuscripts
>> Branch|National Library of Australia Canberra ACT 2600
>> e: emma.jolley at nla.gov.au|t: 02 6262 1456| www.nla.gov.au/ms
>>
>>
>> http://www.nla.gov.au/support-us/make-a-collection-offer-pictures-and-manuscripts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [
>> mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org
>> <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Chris Fitzpatrick
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 15 November 2014 9:52 AM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource records
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for this and sorry about the pain this has been causing. A few
>> points:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Just to clarify, this isn't a 1.1.0 bug. It's actually affects all
>> versions of AS.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Payton from Hudson Molongo's patch is included into github now, but I
>> still need to write tests for it. If you want the fix now, you can do a
>> fresh build on the current version in github. and let us know if it works
>> for you
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) In regards to process, I think the problem was that this was reported
>> along with another similar issue involving instances re-ordering. Also, in
>> trying to replicate this issue, I mistakenly assumed that it was strictly a
>> "drag-and-drop" issue and was missing the key edit part of the problem, so
>> I wasn't able to see the problem immediately.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, regardless, we all need to make sure that PT tickets get made for
>> any bug or feature request. If its not in PT, it's probably not going to be
>> addressed.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I know not everyone has "create" access in Pivotal Tracker ( there's a
>> license/cost issue there ), but there are quite a few colleagues who can
>> submit tickets.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm also trying to think of ways we can ensure discussions generated here
>> get captured into tickets, with good suggestions. Anyone have some
>> suggestions on things that work or that they think might work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>> chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
>> Ben Goldman <bmg17 at psu.edu>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 9:51 PM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource records
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who's been testing this and reporting back to the
>> list. At Penn State we have not had a chance to test this yet as we haven't
>> upgraded to 1.1, but I would just add that this particular bug has led us
>> to effectively freeze all data entry at the component level of resource
>> records, because the results are just too unpredictable and difficult to
>> remediate. I suspect that other ASpace users might feel the same way. I
>> would hope that ArchivesSpace could prioritize this fix for immediate
>> release.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Goldman*
>> Digital Records Archivist
>> Penn State University Libraries
>> University Park, PA
>> 814-863-8333
>> http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/speccolls.html
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Lora Davis" <ljdavis at colgate.edu>
>> *To: *"Archivesspace Users Group" <
>> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
>> *Sent: *Friday, November 14, 2014 3:43:19 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource        records
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, just to reiterate what Allyson, Elliot, and Teresa have shared -
>> this happens at random but does not seem to be directly correlated (at
>> least for us) to actually dragging/dropping/moving components.  A case in
>> point: I've been going through and adding access restriction notes to
>> various components within existing administrative collections.  Last week I
>> clicked on several existing components in a resource record, added
>> conditions governing access notes to those components, saved the changes,
>> and went about the rest of my day.  The following day I pulled up the
>> resource to answer a reference question and, lo and behold, it appeared as
>> if someone had dipped a giant wooden spoon into the cauldron that was the
>> collection and stirred all the components about in an infuriatingly
>> nonsensical way to make component soup of our previously well-ordered
>> resource record.
>>
>>
>>
>> Payten - Thanks for sharing this code, but just to confirm, have you
>> tested this fix against the scenario I describe (editing but not moving a
>> component)?  I just want clarification since the description for your patch
>> ("Patch for drag and drop causing record to lose position/parent") does not
>> align with the primary problem we are encountering.  Again, thanks for your
>> hard work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris - Do we have a timeline for this release?  We are seeing many
>> benefits to our transition to ArchivesSpace, but this problem has been a
>> constant thorn in our sides since we first reported it in June.  We had
>> hoped that 1.1.0 would resolve this issue (as we'd been told it would), but
>> we remain anxious for the day when we can rest assured that ArchivesSpace
>> gnomes won't enter our resources at night and scramble them all about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Lora Davis
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick <
>> Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, awesome Payten.
>>
>> I couldn't get this to replicate and was thinking it was something in the
>> backend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will apply this and include it in the next release.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> b,chris.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Payten Giles <payten.giles at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:44 AM
>> *To:* Chris Fitzpatrick; Archivesspace Users Group
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource records
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi there Chris, Allyson,
>>
>>
>>
>> Eavesdropping a little bit and the guilt of writing this code became too
>> much!
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris, this looks like a little bug in the tree.js where we aren’t
>> checking the correct node.. the comment says the right thing while the code
>> does the wrong thing.  Here’s a gist of a potential patch:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/payten/649819e7f08d0de3e945
>>
>>
>>
>> To replicate I have a Resource hierarchy something like this:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Resource
>>
>> - AO Parent
>>
>> - AO Child 1
>>
>> - AO Child 2
>>
>> - AO Child 3
>>
>> - AO Child 4
>>
>>
>>
>> I select and go to edit ‘AO Child 3’.  When that form is visible I drag
>> ‘AO Child 4’ above to become the first sibling.  I then continue to edit
>> ‘AO Child 3’ and refresh the page.  ‘A0 Child 3’ is now positioned directly
>> under ‘Resource’.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy to put together a more formal pull request if you like.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Payten
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Nov 2014, at 12:53 am, Chris Fitzpatrick <
>> Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Allyson,
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortuantely, I haven't been able to replicate the problem of component
>> movements not sticking. See =>
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzRF7huQ7tqKS29oM2RZZWNubGc/view?usp=sharing
>>  )
>>
>>
>>
>> In edit mode, I'm able to drag and drop components, reload the page, or
>> go to the view page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this happening for every record every time for you? Or is it an
>> infrequent thing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not doubting you ( I promise! ) , just trying to see when this is
>> happening...
>>
>>
>>
>> b,chris.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
>> Allyson Smally <asmally at colgate.edu>
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 6:04 PM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource records
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all -
>>
>> Unfortunately, after upgrading to the newest release, we are still having
>> this problem.
>>
>> Archival objects are reordering themselves after being edited.
>>
>> Is anyone else still having this problem? Does anyone know of a solution?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> Allyson
>>
>> Allyson E. Smally
>> Processing Archivist
>> Colgate University Libraries
>> 13 Oak Drive
>> Hamilton, NY 13346
>> (315) 228-7867
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Ben Goldman <bmg17 at psu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> Archival object tree.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Chris Fitzpatrick" <Chris.Fitzpatrick at lyrasis.org>
>> *To: *"Archivesspace Users Group" <
>> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:46:10 AM
>>
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering
>> objects        in        resource        records
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Ben,
>>
>>
>>
>> Soon, I promise!
>>
>>
>>
>> But just to check, are you talking about reording the archival object
>> tree for the resource or the order of things like notes and subjects?
>>
>>
>>
>> b,chris.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
>> Skype: chrisfitzpat  | Phone: 918.236.6048
>> http://archivesspace.org/
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <
>> archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of
>> Ben Goldman <bmg17 at psu.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:19 PM
>> *To:* Archivesspace Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource records
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Allyson. I knew it sounded familiar!
>>
>>
>>
>> Do we have an ETA on the next release yet? :)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Allyson Smally" <asmally at colgate.edu>
>> *To: *"Archivesspace Users Group" <
>> archivesspace_users_group at lyralists.lyrasis.org>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:15:04 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in
>> resource        records
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, from what I understand this is a known issue. It has been happening
>> to us a lot as well.
>>
>> At SAA this August, I was told it would be fixed in the next release.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Allyson
>>
>>
>> Allyson E. Smally
>> Processing Archivist
>> Colgate University Libraries
>> 13 Oak Drive
>> Hamilton, NY 13346
>> (315) 228-7867
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ben Goldman <bmg17 at psu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just experienced an issue and on a cursory search can't tell if it's
>> been noted in PivotalTracker yet or discussed here yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been editing an inventory object-by-object in a resource record,
>> saving each object as I updated it. In one instance I reordered one of the
>> objects by dragging it further down the tree, then continued editing other
>> objects. Then I reached an object that could be removed, clicked to delete
>> it,  the resource reloaded in View mode, and the objects appeared to
>> shuffle, and not seemingly in the order I started with.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Goldman*
>> Digital Records Archivist
>> Penn State University Libraries
>> University Park, PA
>> 814-863-8333
>> http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/speccolls.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Allyson E. Smally
>> Processing Archivist
>> Colgate University Libraries
>> 13 Oak Drive
>> Hamilton, NY 13346
>> (315) 228-7867
>>
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Colgate University Libraries
13 Oak Drive
Hamilton, NY 13346
(315) 228-7867
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