[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Problems with Previous Location [Archivesspace_Users_Group Digest, Vol 15, Issue 50]

Mon Nov 3 19:40:19 EST 2014

Hi Emma,

So, there's a bug here, and I think a feature request....

The bug is that it looks like the translation for this error is not set right, which is why you're seeing:

en.validation_errors.cannot_be_previous_if_location_is_not_temporary

instead of the:

"Status - cannot be previous if Location is not temporary" message.

Ticket for this here : https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/82000286

The way this functions is that you have "resources", "locations", and the "housed_at", which is the relationship that joins these. You're actually setting the "housed_at" status to be "current " or "previous". The issue is that the "Location" has to have a temporary value set to allow you to set a "housed_at" to "previous".

This is not a bug, as there is a very specific validation written on this relationship being this way (

https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/blob/master/backend/app/model/container.rb#L32-L35 ).

I'm not exactly sure the reasons for this or what changing this would do. We can ask?

best,chris.

Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace
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http://archivesspace.org/
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From: archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org <archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org> on behalf of Emma Jolley <EJOLLEY at nla.gov.au>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Problems with Previous Location [Archivesspace_Users_Group Digest, Vol 15, Issue 50]

Many thanks for replying Kate and for reminding me of the details of your original query. Greatly appreciated.

The description on the pivotaltracker only deals with temporary locations. We would like to be able to mark, main locations (instances) as “Previous”. We have occasions when a collection is stored at one location and then a period later (months or years) will be moved to a new locations. We’d like to be able to record the ‘previous’ location. Temporary locations would only be used for items within a collection/fonds that has temporarily been moved to another location such as Exhibition, Preservation etc. Having said that, we would also like to be able to add new types of “temporary’ locations.

Perhaps the AS team could advise whether this is something that could be fixed?

Thanks again

Emma

Emma Jolley| Curator of Digital Archives, Pictures and Manuscripts Branch|National Library of Australia Canberra ACT 2600
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From: archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Kate Tasker
Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2014 7:40 AM
To: ArchivesSpace Users Group
Subject: Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Problems with Previous Location [Archivesspace_Users_Group Digest, Vol 15, Issue 50]

Hi Emma,

This was one of our questions a few months ago too (here's my original post from July 8, below). There is an open ticket on Pivotal Tracker here: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/s/projects/386247/stories/74828824

We haven't moved to v1.1.0 yet, so I'm not sure if anything has changed in the new version. I didn't see it on the features/bug list for the latest release, though...

Hope this helps,
-Kate

Kate Tasker
Digital Collections Archivist
The Bancroft Library
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-6000

Hi All,

I'm looking for some guidance on the use of the "Temporary" field in a Location record. It is a non-required field and has four optional values in the drop-down menu (Conservation, Exhibit, Loan, Reading Room). Interestingly, it seems to become a required field when adding a Location to an Instance and setting the Location status to "Previous".

We would like to record historic ("Previous") locations for some Instances, but receive this error message if the linked Location does not have data in the "Temporary" field:

"Status - cannot be previous if Location is not temporary"

The four values in the location_temporary controlled value list are fixed and cannot be modified, and we have locations that don't really fit under any of those four types. Is anyone else experiencing a similar situation?

Would it be possible to make the location_temporary list editable, or to allow a "Previous" status without a "Temporary" value?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Kate

Kate Tasker
Digital Collections Archivist
The Bancroft Library
University of California
Berkeley, CA 94720-6000

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Dear All

I have been experiencing an error when trying to change a location in an Accession record to "Previous". I keep getting the following message:

Status - translation missing: en.validation_errors.cannot_be_previous_if_location_is_not_temporary

I recall that someone mentioned this error a few months ago. I'd be grateful if you could let me know if this is a known bug and/or if it has been fixed? Or if I am doing something wrong.

I am using the 1.1.0 version.

Many thanks

Emma

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Does anyone have an instance of the public user interface of the AS which they have implemented in either a trial or live form and that they would be willing to share? I am giving a presentation on the system to the archivists at the University of Auckland Libraries and Learning Services, where we are currently using the Archivists? Toolkit.

We have an AS sandbox instance of the public interface but it would be great to see a customised example to give a better sense of the institutional setting and options for implementation.

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Stephen Innes (ALIANZA)
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