From celeste.feather at lyrasis.org Wed Feb 22 17:18:09 2012 From: celeste.feather at lyrasis.org (Celeste Feather) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Message-ID: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From louis.houle at mcgill.ca Thu Feb 23 08:42:55 2012 From: louis.houle at mcgill.ca (Louis Houle) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:42:55 +0000 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celeste.feather at lyrasis.org Thu Feb 23 09:46:55 2012 From: celeste.feather at lyrasis.org (Celeste Feather) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:46:55 -0500 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> Message-ID: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tizbicki at rci.rutgers.edu Thu Feb 23 09:55:19 2012 From: tizbicki at rci.rutgers.edu (Thomas Izbicki) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:55:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <27fc9c66-dec8-48cb-9c3e-00bd744f4bc9@zimmbox11.rutgers.edu> Celeste, Rutgers insists on our writing in New Jersey law. The trivkiest licenses I have dealt with are European, with mention of entirely different legal system. I ran into this twice with databases from France. Tom Izbicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celeste Feather" To: "LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts" Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:46:55 AM Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we?ll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one?s province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All ? I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I?ll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I?ll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. _______________________________________________ Lyrarl mailing list Lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org http://lyralists.lyrasis.org/mailman/listinfo/lyrarl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thorava at uottawa.ca Thu Feb 23 10:34:49 2012 From: thorava at uottawa.ca (Tony G Horava) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:34:49 +0000 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a 'checklist of licensing issues' that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb - thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks - this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From louis.houle at mcgill.ca Thu Feb 23 11:18:29 2012 From: louis.houle at mcgill.ca (Louis Houle) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:18:29 +0000 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C71912453B@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> Celeste, I thought that you were going to say that the best thing would be to remain silent on the governing law. I do agree with you that this is probably the best option and we had to do the same thing here with some of our e-resources but I do have to say that this does not satisfy us 100%. I am saying this because depending on the contract laws of your country, state or province, silent on this = the laws from the vendor's country. This is the case here in Quebec. This is just an FYI and this scenario is probably occurring in other provinces and states. Louis From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 09:47 To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celeste.feather at lyrasis.org Thu Feb 23 11:19:36 2012 From: celeste.feather at lyrasis.org (Celeste Feather) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> Message-ID: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> Tony, The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and specifications in the RFP. I'm attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a 'checklist of licensing issues' that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb - thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks - this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ARL Licensing Requirements.doc Type: application/msword Size: 139776 bytes Desc: ARL Licensing Requirements.doc URL: From thorava at uottawa.ca Thu Feb 23 13:58:46 2012 From: thorava at uottawa.ca (Tony G Horava) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:58:46 +0000 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> Thanks Celeste; this is very useful. I assume it is ok to share this document within our consortia, to compare and contrast with existing practices and requirements? Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 11:20 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Tony, The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and specifications in the RFP. I'm attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a 'checklist of licensing issues' that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb - thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks - this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celeste.feather at lyrasis.org Thu Feb 23 14:07:39 2012 From: celeste.feather at lyrasis.org (Celeste Feather) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:07:39 -0500 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> Message-ID: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C428B1@lyraatlexec> Tony, Certainly it is okay to share these specifications. I doubt if any dramatic departure from commonly accepted best-of-breed model licenses will be identified. The challenge is to get all of these principles included in an actual license, plus work on improving matters such as ILL rights, DRM issues, and downloading formats/capabilities as the ebook market continues to develop. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:59 PM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Thanks Celeste; this is very useful. I assume it is ok to share this document within our consortia, to compare and contrast with existing practices and requirements? Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 11:20 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Tony, The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and specifications in the RFP. I'm attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a 'checklist of licensing issues' that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb - thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks - this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we'll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one's province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All - I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I'll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I'll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jblix at arl.org Thu Feb 23 14:12:55 2012 From: jblix at arl.org (Julia Blixrud) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:12:55 -0600 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> Message-ID: Tony, certainly it is and you can also find it on the right hand side of the page http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/index.shtml The document was developed by a Task Force and approved by our Board. If you have questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Julia Blixrud 2012/2/23 Tony G Horava > Thanks Celeste; this is very useful. I assume it is ok to share this > document within our consortia, to compare and contrast with existing > practices and requirements?**** > > ** ** > > Best wishes, Tony**** > > ** ** > > *Tony Horava** > *Associate University Librarian (Collections)**** > > Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections)**** > > University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa > Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 > Fax : (613) 562-5196**** > > thorava at uottawa.ca**** > > ** ** > > *From:* lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto: > lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Celeste Feather > *Sent:* February-23-12 11:20 AM > *To:* LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts > *Subject:* Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks**** > > ** ** > > Tony,**** > > ** ** > > The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that > ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, > LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and > specifications in the RFP. I?m attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. > **** > > ** ** > > Celeste**** > > ** ** > > Celeste Feather**** > > Licensing Program Account Manager**** > > LYRASIS**** > > celeste.feather at lyrasis.org**** > > 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free)**** > > 678-235-2954 (Direct)**** > > 404-550-6459 (Cell)**** > > celeste.feather (Skype)**** > > ** ** > > *www.lyrasis.org* > > * * > > *LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together.* > > * * > > ** ** > > *From:* lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto: > lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Tony G Horava > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM > *To:* 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' > *Subject:* Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks**** > > ** ** > > Hi Celeste,**** > > **** > > This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis > has written below regarding governing law provisions. **** > > You mentioned a ?checklist of licensing issues? that ARL has created and > that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared?**** > > On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, > http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you > are referring to a much more recent document...**** > > **** > > Nb ? thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks ? this is > very important information for us to digest.**** > > **** > > Best wishes, Tony**** > > **** > > *Tony Horava** > *Associate University Librarian (Collections)**** > > Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections)**** > > University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa > Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 > Fax : (613) 562-5196**** > > thorava at uottawa.ca**** > > **** > > *From:* lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org > [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Celeste > Feather > *Sent:* February-23-12 9:47 AM > *To:* LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts > *Subject:* Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks**** > > **** > > Louis,**** > > **** > > Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of > licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with > vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license > should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create > agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect > there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of > local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then > there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement > specifically for that institution.**** > > **** > > In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, > while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, > the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a > fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single > agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments > and exceptions need to be made though, we?ll create a mechanism to make > that happen.**** > > **** > > Celeste**** > > **** > > **** > > Celeste Feather**** > > Licensing Program Account Manager**** > > LYRASIS**** > > celeste.feather at lyrasis.org**** > > 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free)**** > > 678-235-2954 (Direct)**** > > 404-550-6459 (Cell)**** > > celeste.feather (Skype)**** > > **** > > *www.lyrasis.org***** > > **** > > *LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together.***** > > * ***** > > **** > > *From:* lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org > [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Louis Houle > *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM > *To:* 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' > *Subject:* Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks**** > > **** > > Good morning Celeste,**** > > **** > > Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like > to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. > From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably > know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor > we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific > laws of one?s province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL > context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always > want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can > be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want > to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS.**** > > **** > > Louis Houle**** > > McGill University**** > > **** > > *From:* lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org > [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] *On Behalf Of *Celeste > Feather > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 > *To:* lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org > *Subject:* [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks**** > > **** > > All ?**** > > **** > > I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations > that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. > University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL > licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean > Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. > Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also > attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion.** > ** > > **** > > Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness > of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are > withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE > collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on > feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with > unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many > of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to > 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for > course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks > to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing > which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them > from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after > publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any > significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital > rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles > withheld.**** > > **** > > Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems > for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are > expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be > purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE > collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business > model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or > that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, > publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE > collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and > felt that the discussion was productive for all parties.**** > > **** > > On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 > imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to > calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data > from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries > Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 > libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested > that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order > to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in > the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the > initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of > what large research libraries on average have been spending for content > from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the > collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual > expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both > the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld.**** > > **** > > Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and > discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that > meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that > we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in > April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL > requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give > MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does > not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document.**** > > We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding > their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share > additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the > ARL group interest.**** > > **** > > I?ll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you > have on this topic, and I?ll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. > **** > > **** > > Celeste**** > > **** > > **** > > Celeste Feather**** > > Licensing Program Account Manager**** > > LYRASIS**** > > celeste.feather at lyrasis.org**** > > 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free)**** > > 678-235-2954 (Direct)**** > > 404-550-6459 (Cell)**** > > celeste.feather (Skype)**** > > **** > > *www.lyrasis.org***** > > **** > > *LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together.***** > > * ***** > > **** > > * ***** > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > Lyrarl mailing list > Lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org > http://lyralists.lyrasis.org/mailman/listinfo/lyrarl > > -- Julia C. 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Tom Klingler Kent State On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:11 PM, "Celeste Feather" > wrote: Tony, Certainly it is okay to share these specifications. I doubt if any dramatic departure from commonly accepted best-of-breed model licenses will be identified. The challenge is to get all of these principles included in an actual license, plus work on improving matters such as ILL rights, DRM issues, and downloading formats/capabilities as the ebook market continues to develop. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:59 PM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Thanks Celeste; this is very useful. I assume it is ok to share this document within our consortia, to compare and contrast with existing practices and requirements? Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 11:20 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Tony, The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and specifications in the RFP. I?m attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a ?checklist of licensing issues? that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb ? thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks ? this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we?ll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one?s province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All ? I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I?ll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I?ll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. _______________________________________________ Lyrarl mailing list Lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org http://lyralists.lyrasis.org/mailman/listinfo/lyrarl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celeste.feather at lyrasis.org Thu Feb 23 15:41:51 2012 From: celeste.feather at lyrasis.org (Celeste Feather) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:41:51 -0500 Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks In-Reply-To: References: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42678@lyraatlexec> <00DB2A2D7A977147B0783BE726A8C719123E0F@exmbx2010-9.campus.MCGILL.CA> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C42716@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886A72@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C427C2@lyraatlexec> <81FB6531F69514458DCE3E8C75FFBF4139886C4F@CMS-P04.uottawa.o.univ> <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C428B1@lyraatlexec> Message-ID: <2292A4BA7D7F2849B5C69093E659924B1F03C4294A@lyraatlexec> Tom, SERU certainly has its place in the world of negotiations between content providers and content purchasers, and I?m grateful that it exists. However, even the drafters of SERU recognize that it isn?t a substitute for a license agreement in all cases. Take for example the section in the most recent SERU draft related to ILL for ebooks: ?While interlibrary loan of printed books has been a standard, accepted practice since the Nineteenth Century, there is no current consensus or standardized technology pertaining to the interlibrary lending of e-books. Providers and acquiring institutions may choose to describe a mutually acceptable process in their quotes and purchase orders.? In general the SERU language is beautifully simple. There are no statements in the current SERU update draft about DRM. In terms of guaranteeing broader and better-defined usage rights and business terms for a large group of libraries, a license document is a much better tool. My $.02 worth. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of KLINGLER, THOMAS Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:17 PM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Cc: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks SERU ? Tom Klingler Kent State On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:11 PM, "Celeste Feather" > wrote: Tony, Certainly it is okay to share these specifications. I doubt if any dramatic departure from commonly accepted best-of-breed model licenses will be identified. The challenge is to get all of these principles included in an actual license, plus work on improving matters such as ILL rights, DRM issues, and downloading formats/capabilities as the ebook market continues to develop. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:59 PM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Thanks Celeste; this is very useful. I assume it is ok to share this document within our consortia, to compare and contrast with existing practices and requirements? Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 11:20 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Tony, The checklist I referred to earlier was included in the RFP document that ARL sent out last year. As part of the agreement between LYRASIS and ARL, LYRASIS is charged to negotiate according to the licensing principles and specifications in the RFP. I?m attaching the list as excerpted from the RFP. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Tony G Horava Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:35 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Hi Celeste, This is a very useful discussion, and I certainly agree with what Louis has written below regarding governing law provisions. You mentioned a ?checklist of licensing issues? that ARL has created and that you are using as a guideline. Can this be shared? On the ARL site I found a very old document re licensing strategies, http://www.arl.org/sc/marketplace/license/licbooklet.shtml I assume you are referring to a much more recent document... Nb ? thanks for the business analysis re Project Muse ebooks ? this is very important information for us to digest. Best wishes, Tony Tony Horava Associate University Librarian (Collections) Biblioth?caire associ? (Collections) University of Ottawa / l'Universite d'Ottawa Tel : (613) 562-5800 ext. 3645 Fax : (613) 562-5196 thorava at uottawa.ca From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: February-23-12 9:47 AM To: LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Louis, Thanks for raising this important point. ARL has created a checklist of licensing issues that I am using as a guideline for negotiations with vendors. The position that ARL has taken on governing law is that a license should remain silent on this point, specifically because we want to create agreements that are acceptable across state and country borders. I suspect there are some legal teams at institutions that require specific mention of local governing law in a license agreement, and if that is the case, then there will need to be a short amendment to a central license agreement specifically for that institution. In my own experience at a large public institution several years ago, while a mention of specific state law was preferred in a license agreement, the university lawyers also would accept silence on the matter as a fallback position. Obviously the more we can unite behind a single agreement, the more efficiency we can bring to the process. If amendments and exceptions need to be made though, we?ll create a mechanism to make that happen. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Louis Houle Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:43 AM To: 'LYRASIS ARL Collection Development Contacts' Subject: Re: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks Good morning Celeste, Thank you for the update and good luck with the negotiations. I would like to bring one important issue with any License Agreement: the governing law. From the 126 ARL members, 18 of them are located in Canada. As you probably know, when we do negotiate a license in Canada with a non-Canadian vendor we do want to have the License Agreement to be governed by the specific laws of one?s province (Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, etc.). Within the ARL context and knowing also that in the United States an institution always want to have the governing laws of its own state, how do you think this can be managed for such a deal. I do not have all the answers but I just want to bring this important issue to ARL and LYRASIS. Louis Houle McGill University From: lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:lyrarl-bounces at lyralists.lyrasis.org] On Behalf Of Celeste Feather Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 17:18 To: lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org Subject: [Lyrarl] Update on Project MUSE and JSTOR ebooks All ? I want to provide an update for you regarding the ongoing negotiations that LYRASIS is conducting with vendors on behalf of ARL and its members. University press ebooks are the first priority. Members of the ARL licensing working group, Tom Sanville from LYRASIS, and I met with Dean Smith and Melanie Schaffner of Project MUSE at ALA Midwinter in January. Kathleen Keane, the Director of Johns Hopkins University Press, also attended to add perspectives from the UPCC publishers to our discussion. Apart from pricing, the primary issue seems to be the lack of completeness of the MUSE collections. As a group, the MUSE/UPCC publishers are withholding around 50% of their academic title output from the MUSE collections. We learned that MUSE/UPCC built their business model based on feedback from librarians that they wanted to purchased ebooks with unlimited use and few DRM restrictions. The economic reality is that many of the UPCC publishers receive substantial percentages of revenue (up to 50% on some titles) from sales of their books to students where adopted for course reading. They cannot take the economic risk of selling these ebooks to libraries for unlimited use. Therefore, the publishers are guessing which titles are likely to be adopted for courses and are withholding them from the MUSE collections. Typically it may be several years after publication before it is clear whether a title will be subject to any significant course adoption. Other titles are excluded due to digital rights clearance issues, but these seem to be the minority of the titles withheld. Non-inclusive collections provided by MUSE create title tracking problems for libraries, as it is cumbersome to determine which new titles are expected to be part of a collection and which others will need to be purchased separately. One way to improve the situation is to make the MUSE collections more complete, but there will need to be a different business model with limited use for titles that are already adopted for courses or that later become adopted. Without some use restriction on certain titles, publishers cannot afford to put all of their titles in the MUSE collections. We discussed some possible ways forward at the ALA meeting and felt that the discussion was productive for all parties. On the pricing front, I gathered purchase history data for books with 2010 imprint dates from 12 of the larger MUSE/UPCC publishers in an effort to calculate average amounts spent by various sizes of libraries. I used data from OhioLINK, the Colorado Alliance, the Triangle Research Libraries Network, and 2 other ARL libraries to show purchasing patterns in 111 libraries from these 12 publishers in 2010. The data strongly suggested that the pricing for the MUSE collections needed to be reassessed. In order to acquire the same type of publisher content that had been purchased in the past, libraries would be required to spend substantially more under the initial MUSE pricing. The collection prices were roughly along the lines of what large research libraries on average have been spending for content from these publishers. However, due to the lack of completeness of the collections, libraries would need to increase their overall annual expenditure with these publishers significantly in order to acquire both the MUSE collections and the needed titles that are withheld. Project MUSE staff met with the UPCC advisory board on Feb. 9 and discussed these issues with them, and we are expecting a report from that meeting soon. We are hopeful that negotiations will be productive and that we will be able to put a new offer for MUSE/UPCC ebooks on the table in April, 2012. We also are working on licensing issues in compliance with ARL requirements and may need to build some timelines into a license to give MUSE appropriate time to meet all of our requests. At this time there does not appear to be any showstopper issue in the license document. We also have had an initial meeting and conversations with JSTOR regarding their forthcoming ebook collections and are waiting for them to share additional information with the working group. JSTOR is very aware of the ARL group interest. I?ll be glad to share more information or respond to any questions you have on this topic, and I?ll keep you updated as the negotiations continue. Celeste Celeste Feather Licensing Program Account Manager LYRASIS celeste.feather at lyrasis.org 800-999-8558 ext. 2954 (Toll-free) 678-235-2954 (Direct) 404-550-6459 (Cell) celeste.feather (Skype) www.lyrasis.org LYRASIS: Advancing Libraries Together. _______________________________________________ Lyrarl mailing list Lyrarl at lyralists.lyrasis.org http://lyralists.lyrasis.org/mailman/listinfo/lyrarl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: