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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Hi Christine,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="">Many thanks for your helpful response, and pointers to those interesting issues!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="">Best,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="">Ron</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginal"><b><span lang="NL" style="">Van:</span></b></a><span style=""><span lang="NL" style=""> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org <archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org>
<b>Namens </b>Christine Di Bella<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 5 oktober 2022 18:30<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Archivesspace Users Group <archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] different date models for Agents vs Accessions, Resources, Archival Objects?</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Hello Ron,</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">The divergence of the two date models within ArchivesSpace did come about with the work on the Agents module. While the plan is to eventually move other record types for which it makes sense to
the same model (there are some related requests at </span></span><a href="https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-1475" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-1475</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">
and </span></span><a href="https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-380" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-380</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">),
because dates are so complex and because the agents work was underway already, we treated the work on dates associated with agents as a first step. The motivation for the change was specific to the EAC-CPF standard, though it has broader applicability with
EAD as well. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">I don’t have a specific timeframe for moving other dates in the application to this model right now. One of our thoughts in staging this date transition was that we wanted to get feedback on the
agents dates piece before taking the even larger step of moving the other record types (and migrating the associated data) to that model. We haven’t received much feedback on the agents yet, possibly because a lot of people haven’t upgraded to a 3.x version
yet or possibly because the new date model meets their needs just fine. We are currently reviewing prioritized projects against capacity in light of staffing changes and I intend to share more information and an updated roadmap soon.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">I hope that helps. If you have other questions, or if anyone here has background or feedback specific to the agents date model, we’d be glad to have them.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Christine</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Christine Di Bella</span></span><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">ArchivesSpace Program Manager</span></span><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""></span><a href="mailto:christine.dibella@lyrasis.org" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="color: blue;">christine.dibella@lyrasis.org</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style=""><b><span lang="EN-US" style="">From:</span></b></span><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">
</span></span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">
<</span></span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Van den Branden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 5, 2022 9:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span></span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style=""><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</span></span><span style=""></span></a><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Archivesspace_Users_Group] different date models for Agents vs Accessions, Resources, Archival Objects?</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Hi,</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">I'm wondering why different date models exist for different record types in ArchivesSpace:</span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Accessions + Resources/Archival Objects:</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Date Certainty: general certainty qualifier: "Approximate", "Inferred", "Questionable"</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Agents:</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Date Certainty: general certainty qualifier: "Approximate", "Inferred", "Questionable"</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Standardized Date Type: specific qualifier for both Begin and End date: "Standard", "Not Before", "Not After"</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">The extra field Standardized Date Type is occurring consistently for all date fields in the Agents module.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">This raises some questions:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""> </span></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">What's the motivation for this difference? Is it standards-based, and does EAC-CPF allow for more detail than EAD? Or is is because the Agents module has been reworked
more recently?</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">In the latter case, is any harmonization foreseen for the date fields in Accessions and Resources/Archival Objects? If so, is there a time frame?</span></span><span style=""><span style=""></span></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style="">Many thanks for your thoughts!</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style=""><span lang="EN-US" style=""> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Best,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Ron</span></p>
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