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<p>If you're using the schema.xml that came with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1
in your external Solr 8.11, then it will still define the
"sort_icu" fieldType as an instance of the solr.TextField class.
If you look below that, there is a commented-out alternative
fieldType definition which is an instance of
solr.ICUCollationField. ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 has changed to that
(because it no longer has to support the previously-built-in Solr
4.10) but you don't need to upgrade to it, you can just edit your
schema.xml, then reload the Solr core. See the link in my previous
email for help on how to set that up to be optimized for Japanese
characters.</p>
<p>Andrew.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/04/2022 09:44, 松山 ひとみ wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Thank you Andrew!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Our IT says we’ve already been using an
external Solr 8.11 with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1, not the one
built-in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’re thinking of upgrading our AS to 3.2.0. Do
you think we will get a better result?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hitomi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org"><archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Andrew Morrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] PUI
Ordering and Sorting Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Are you using the built-in Solr search
engine that comes with ArchivesSpace 3.0.1? If so, your
sorting problems could be because it uses a very old
version, because newer ones aren't compatible with the
method of embedding it in a bigger application. But there is
the option to configure ArchivesSpace to use an external
Solr service:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/provisioning/solr.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">That allows you to run a more up-to-date
version, which would enable use of the
solr.ICUCollationField class for sort fields. That can be
adjusted to sort different languages according to their own
sorting rules, as described here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://solr.apache.org/guide/8_11/language-analysis.html#unicode-collation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">ArchivesSpace 3.2.0 removes the built-in
Solr, so running an external Solr service will be necessary
if you upgrade in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">As for adding the option to sort on
identifiers, I don't think there is a configuration option
or simple interface for adding them. But it would probably
be possible to develop a plug-in to override certain Ruby
methods in the core code to do it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 27/04/2022 11:04, </span>松山
ひとみ<span lang="EN-US"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hello all,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’ve been stuck in the “ordering and
sorting” issue in [~/repositories/resources]. Our AS is
version 3.0.1.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Presumably, because we use Japanese
Character, our resource list cannot be displayed in a
right, alphabetical order when sorted by Title.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Could we add Identifier to the category of
sorting; Relevance/Title(Asc/Desc)/Year(Asc/Desc), as
alternative?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We’d very much appreciate you helping solve
our issue!
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">All the best,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Hitomi Matsuyama, Audiovisual Archivist</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Nakanoshima Museum of Art, Osaka</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">4-3-1 Nakanoshima, Kita-ku</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Osaka 530-0005 JAPAN</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">tel. +81 (0)6 64 79 05 58</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">email.
<a href="mailto:matsuyama-h@nakka-art.jp" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">matsuyama-h@nakka-art.jp</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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