<div dir="ltr">Very interesting approach, Mark. What happens when someone goes directly to an archival object from a search? What view do they see then?<div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone who corroborated this issue. And apologies to Lydia -- I didn't intend to completely derail this conversation topic! </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:20 AM Custer, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark.custer@yale.edu">mark.custer@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">In addition to the scroll bar issue that you’ve noted, there were a few other issues with the initial single-scroll view in the ArchivesSpace public interface that made that view less than ideal in our own implementation at Yale. For instance,
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<p class="MsoNormal">For the time being, we opted for a completely different approach, with one of the main goals being to reduce the appearance of 3 scrollbars to just 1. For a more thorough description of our updates, see this document:
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<p class="MsoNormal">For a “too long; don’t read” overview, you can explore the difference by looking at these two pages:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Out-of-the-box, lazy-load approach</b>: <a href="https://puidevarchivesspace.library.yale.edu/repositories/5/resources/331/collection_organization" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think that our approach is a small step in the right direction, but certainly not perfect either. As others have noted, they really like having the entire hierarchy present in this view, as well, which we opted to remove for now with
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<p class="MsoNormal">Anyhow, I’m looking forward to the results of what Lydia’s group discovers! Thanks for bringing this topic up on the listserv.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All my best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nic Stanton-Roark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 04 May, 2020 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Collection Organization tab<u></u><u></u></p>
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See the two screen shots below, one from our own instance of ArchivesSpace (in which we call this tab "Finding Aid View") and one from Slippery Rock University, which I include to show that the problem is not just with our instance. There is a scroll bar
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<p>The <a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchivesspace.atlassian.net%2Fwiki%2Fspaces%2FAC%2Fpages%2F893714474%2FUsability&data=02%7C01%7Cmark.custer%40yale.edu%7C4edb02948a4247ece2b708d7f045cf42%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C1%7C637242054936061799&sdata=ZRLz42MUPmGlzTDWs%2Fy%2FfC7tC0iwz%2B0vN7mFQtDVx%2FE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
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