<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Lydia,</div><div><br></div><div>I can certainly see value in making it easy to cite the finding aid itself, but the citation function explicitly pulls from the preferred citation note, which in EAD is defined as <a href="http://www.loc.gov/ead/EAD3taglib/EAD3.html#elem-prefercite">"An element for specifying how users should cite the described materials in publication credits."<br></a></div><div><br></div><div>It seems to me that the URL and date accessed should be removed in the next version, which would immediately bring ArchivesSpace into compliance with DACS. While I generally support making the PUI as customizable as possible, I don't see why it we would want the option to have a citation that is not compliant with descriptive standards.</div><div><br></div><div>That said, an additional (clearly distinguished) function for generating a citation for the finding aid itself would be a nice feature to have once the existing citation is corrected.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Dan<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM Tang, Lydia <<a href="mailto:ltang5@msu.edu">ltang5@msu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Hi Dan and Henry,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">We recently discussed this ticket at Dev. Pri. and would love further input from everyone about it. The reason for the URL and access date is that it can accurately cite the finding aid as potentially an
evolving web page. This could be really helpful for researchers referring to collections/finding aids that are actively being processed/revised. I definitely see your point though that the citation note in DACS refers to the collection, not necessarily the
finding aid, and thus the URL and access date wouldn’t be appropriate. How do others feel about this topic? Perhaps if there was a way to customize the citation generator by the backend or staff interface, that would be helpful, so institutions could decide
individually? What other solutions would be better?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Thanks for bringing this up! Looking forward to hearing others’ input!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Lydia<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>> on behalf of Daniel Michelson <<a href="mailto:dmichelson@smith.edu" target="_blank">dmichelson@smith.edu</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] question about changing "Citation" page action options<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It won't be of help right now, but I've created a <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__archivesspace.atlassian.net_browse_ANW-2D921-3FatlOrigin-3DeyJpIjoiYWQ4NGY1ZGEwNzc1NGFhMzliZTg4NGQ0MWNjZGFjNDIiLCJwIjoiaiJ9&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=lG1-HSCEGsZJf-_mV6BDLh4PvkC3fOv47rKbM_dbh1g&m=FVNm3r9iVikXE-vQ6NC1Y93pLNul9mES5WMPYFbBH-c&s=paitNYx4bk-EqIwkauC_VJOPoNRtRGFVWoX-MDBOELY&e=" target="_blank">
ticket</a> asking for the removal of the URL and date accessed from the citation, since it doesn't comply with DACS.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:28 PM Steele, Henry <<a href="mailto:Henry.Steele@tufts.edu" target="_blank">Henry.Steele@tufts.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">I am working with Digital Collections & Archives at Tufts to modify the PUI with our branding, etc. I have a question about changing the functionality
of one of the action buttons at the top of the page when you’re in the context of a record.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">We want to change the output of the “Citation” button when you’re in the context of a resource, to remove the “URL” and “Accessed: <datestamp>” parts
of the outputted citation. I spent some time this afternoon trying to find where to do this, and the nearest thing I could find was Harvard’s PUI plugin:
</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252Fharvard-2Dlibrary-252Faspace-2Dhvd-2Dpui-252Fblob-252Fmaster-252Fpublic-252Fplugin-5Finit.rb-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cmark.custer-2540yale.edu-257C2e6f375d5c084490b50008d7316aa1b3-257Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c-257C0-257C0-257C637032206368478026-26sdata-3D4sb7ZMfQpZG5nZ-252BJKItS9LtmxEZiKtNzc7hEKe3rP-252Bs-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=lG1-HSCEGsZJf-_mV6BDLh4PvkC3fOv47rKbM_dbh1g&m=FVNm3r9iVikXE-vQ6NC1Y93pLNul9mES5WMPYFbBH-c&s=bITC2BeefW9LdTgBwj9rOQdkvkSC-nTiZgc5WjT9F-c&e=" target="_blank">https://github.com/harvard-library/aspace-hvd-pui/blob/master/public/plugin_init.rb</a>
<span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">But after fiddling for a bit I couldn’t get this to work. Plus it would be great if we don’t have to import a whole plugin, since most of these are configuration changes akin to what you and Tufts want to do, with their branding</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">Has anyone ever attempted this, or know where this behavior can be changed?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">Henry Steele</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">Systems Librarian</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">Tufts University Library Technology Services</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,78,121)">(617)627-5239</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Dan Michelson</div><div>Project Manager Archivist<br></div><div>Smith College Special Collections<br></div></div></div></div></div>