<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Martin,<br><br></div>We discussed this a bit at our last <a target="_blank" href="https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/wiki/display/AC/2016-09-30+Meeting+notes">Integration sub-team</a> meeting. We'd recommend finding a digital asset management system that you're happy with (e.g., BePress, or a couple of our members suggested Islandora, but really any will do--some better than others, of course) and looking into that. As to your concern about having digital objects and metadata "separated," I'm sure there's others on this list who would disagree, but we've at least taken the approach that ArchivesSpace is our system of record for administrative and descriptive metadata while DSpace is our system of record for preserving/providing access to digital objects/packages. While the metadata/objects then are technically "separated" in different systems, all that really means is that we have two systems that specialize in different things (and do each of those different things better than either one of them could do both) that function together in a coordinated whole. Unique identifiers end up playing a big role in linking systems together.<br><br>One of the best things about ArchivesSpace is the <a href="http://archivesspace.github.io/archivesspace/api/">API</a>, which allows you to easily get data in and out and share it with other systems, so I'd also look into that.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span> <br><br></div>Hope that helps,<br></div>Max<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Martin Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu" target="_blank">mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Max,<br><br></div>Thank you!<br><br></div>It does seem that most places have created separate sites for their digital objects <br></div>using a variety of systems (ContentDM, etc) while using the archives system just as <br></div>a finding aid (as with Archivists Toolkit). Archon does provide the capacity for <br></div>creating digital libraries within it and populating these with both metadata and associated <br></div>JPEGs, so we built on that. Since AS does not provide that functionality, we would be looking <br>to put the JPEGs etc in BePress, but haven't sorted out how that would work -- just linking <br></div><div>to JPEGs would seem to separate the object from its metadata: not a good idea! Maybe <br></div><div>we would have to rebuild the digital library in BePress, which seems a lot of duplicated <br></div><div>work.... Even if we do build a reduced digital library in BePress (hundreds rather than <br>thousands of images) , I would be sorry to lose when we've built in Archon when we <br>migrate to AS. <br><br>Duke University has done something similar as reported in Noah Huffman's "The Tao of <br></div><div>the DAO: Embedding digital objects in finding aids" (July 6, 2015), using custom EAD <br></div><div>coding. I'm not sure we could undertake that kind of project here and am looking for <br></div><div>a "ready made" solution, if that's possible.<br></div><div><br>My problem is that I'm not familiar using either AS or BePress.... so starting with <br></div><div>questions at both ends. Plus, we don't have the resources of a Duke University to <br></div><div>implement a large-scale project like they did.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Martin<br> </div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Max Eckard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eckardm@umich.edu" target="_blank">eckardm@umich.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Martin,<br><br></div>I apologize for the delay in getting back with you. I've added this as an agenda item to the Integrations sub-team meeting next Tuesday so we'll definitely discuss it then. Unless I'm missing something it sounds like what you're talking about may be possible (as long as you have a link to the object online somewhere--not a metadata/download screen, unless you just wanted a link). I also assume you're talking about the public interface here?<br><br>I also wonder if anyone from the migrations sub-team would have any ideas about the retaining data structures from Archon to ArchivesSpace part.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">Max<br><div><br><br></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Martin Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu" target="_blank">mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Max,<br><br></div>Thanks for responding so quickly.<br></div>I don't see in the Integrations and Comunity Projects page a reference to what we <br></div>have in mind. <br><br></div>We have been using Archon and have built within in it an integrated digital library of images <br>of the history of the College. Each image is contained within a "digital library" which includes <br>descriptive metadata (title, physical description, content description, creator, date, copyright <br>and publisher data, location of the physical source of the digital object, etc). <br>These individual digital libraries are each associated with the collection to which they pertain, <br></div><div>such that a given collection may contain physical boxes, folders, audiotapes, video, photographs <br>and digital objects as well.<br> <br></div><div>What we want is to make the digital object (JPEG, PDF, etc) viewable together with its <br></div>metadata via AS. The digital objects themselves would be contained within BePress, while <br></div><div>the physical objects would be referenced in AS. We hope not to have to reconstruct our <br></div><div>whole catalog separately in BePress but to retain the data structures from Archon as we <br>migrate to AS -- hence considering that we would in some fashion <br></div><div>be integrating BePress with AS.<br><br></div><div>At this point I don't know whether what I'm asking is trivially obvious or basically un-doable.<br></div><div>Thanks for pointing me in a good direction.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div>-Martin<br></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Max Eckard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eckardm@umich.edu" target="_blank">eckardm@umich.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Marten,<br><br></div>I believe you're the first (at least that I'm aware of from our work on the Technical Advisory Committee Integrations sub-team) to be interested in an integration with BePress (although not the first to be interested in integration with an access system). I'd suggest taking a look at the <a href="https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/wiki/display/ADC/Integrations+and+Other+Community+Projects" target="_blank">Integrations and Other Community Projects</a> page on the wiki to see if any of those integrations work in similar ways to the one you have in mind. If you find one, I'd reach out to that institution for more information. <br><br>If you don't see what you're looking for, perhaps you could reply with a little more detail about exactly what you're after. After that, I'm sure one of us on the Integrations subteam or someone in the community would have some suggestions for first steps.<br><br></div>Thanks,<br></div>Max<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Martin Cohen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu" target="_blank">mjcohen@stmarys-ca.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Related to the query about Preservica, we are looking to integrate<br></div>AS with BePress and would like to learn what's involved.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><br>-- <br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><font face="times new roman,serif">Martin J. 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