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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:FangSong">Hi Helen, Mark, et al,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:FangSong"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:FangSong">That is a style issue that bothers me visually also—the note label being more prominent than the title of the folder or the note itself. It’s not just the Scope and Contents note label,
but General Note and probably all of the notes. (Those are just the two that I use the most often in processing a collection). It would be great not to have to display the Scope and Content label or General Note label at least at the folder folder level,
and reserve those headings for series or sub-series notes.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:FangSong">---Jackie</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:FangSong"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:FangSong">Jacqueline Morin, M.L.I.S.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:FangSong">Processing Archivist, Special Collections</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:FangSong"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Helen Thomas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] ASpace's PDF view of finding aids<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The main style issue I have with the PDF output (aside from the aforementioned publishing of unpublished components) is how it displays note titles at the folder or item level. Attached is a screenshot from the PDF output for one of our
finding aids. The folder title here is "Economic Review Committee." The title for the scope and contents note is bold and I think a larger font than the title of the folder. I believe this emphasis looks confusing for the user, and I would like for the title
of the note to be either less conspicuous than the folder title or not appear at all. If we could opt out of displaying the "Scope and Contents" title line at the folder level, since I think it's pretty apparent that this description relates to the folder
listed immediately above it, it could shorten the finding aids quite a bit for those who choose to include folder or item level description. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for looking into this!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Helen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Custer, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark.custer@yale.edu" target="_blank">mark.custer@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wow, Lora, thanks! That is really helpful.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can’t do anything about the export process in the staff interface, but I can look into the issue
of unpublished notes showing up (that’s no good) as well as fixing how container labels display for version 1.5 (I don’t remember anyone reporting that before, but I’ll look to make see if it’s in the ASpace Jira). I think I can replicate those issues based
on your description, but if I need any example data, I’ll let you know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks again.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">
archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lora Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 23 June, 2016 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] ASpace's PDF view of finding aids</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I, like you, haven’t really looked at the PDF XSL-FO. At my prior institution we maintained our
export EAD -> local XSLT -> HTML workflow (and we were hosted so couldn’t access the application anyway), and, at my current institution, we’ve only been live in ASpace for about a month. That said, as we start kicking the tires here, our team has been generating
a running list of PDF issues/concerns in our local JIRA instance. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PDF exports are low-ish on my priority list right now, but I’m happy to pass these tickets along
in case they’re of use to you. I’m just copying/pasting these out from our JIRA where they’ve been recorded by users other than myself, so I expect you might need to follow up with me for more clarity off list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Not a stylesheet issue, just general comment about the process) Exporting to PDF still necessitates a lot of click-through! Can we streamline this? Also, when exporting
as PDF, search only works with text title. Can't search as MS.0545 for example. </span>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(You’ve addressed this. Thanks!) PDF export fails entirely when inline coding present in ToC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">When exporting to PDF, public and unpublished notes show up.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Guessing this stems from the XSL-FO predating the container management plugin/1.5.0) For collection level finding aids (e.g. no dsc exists) instance information is presented
in “Summary Information” in a confusing fashion. For example, the label reads “Mixed Materials [31151030059731] [box]:” and value reads “1.” This makes no sense to users.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Again, feel free to follow up directly and I can get better examples/screenshots/etc. from the team.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks for taking this on,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">
archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Custer, Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Archivesspace_Users_Group] ASpace's PDF view of finding aids</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I haven’t really looked too much at the PDF that ASpace provides since we’re still using our local
PDF transformation process, so I’m curious what folks think of that output in general? I feel like most of the feedback that I’ve heard has been positive, with a few requests to change things like font sizes in certain places.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For those of you who are using the PDFs, what are the things you’d like to see changed, if anything?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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