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<div class="">At Yale, we’ve also stored ArchivesSpace ref_ids in our Hydra repository for the same purpose.</div>
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<div class="">I know that there’s some talk of a “product owners” group for ArchivesSpace — I think that it would be good for this kind of group to put together a “data charter” (there’s gotta be a better term) that lays out a minimum set of expectations for
ArchivesSpace users -- what elements of the application (and the data therein) are and are not subject to change over time. This would help us make integration plans with more confidence.</div>
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<div class="">On Dec 15, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Noah Huffman <<a href="mailto:noah.huffman@duke.edu" class="">noah.huffman@duke.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">We’ve made a couple of decisions internally that assume these ref_ids are persistent. For example, we’re storing these IDs in our Hydra repository as the primary way to link from digital objects to their description
in ASpace. So, naturally, I’m curious about this too.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial Narrow', sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);" class="">David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>[<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 14, 2015 2:28 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Persistence of ref ids?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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We’re curious to hear from the devs or anyone with a lot of experience about whether ref_ids in the system ever change their values. I know they don’t upon transfer, and they’re not editable from the user interface, so we’re fairly certain they are permanent
and persistent, but want to make sure before making a couple decisions internally.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Can anyone confirm their persistence/permanence?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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