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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s very rare that one of us on the ArchivesSpace team has to put on the list administrator hat here because the information shared here is nearly always in the spirit of helping each other and helping the development team work through
issues, but I’ll do so now and make a quick plea that we keep things in that vein on this discussion too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The way information about containers and levels of description is managed is one of the things that complicates migration of data from Archon to ArchivesSpace, but there are strategies for dealing with that. Any Archon users want to share
what they’ve done on this particular issue, or any users in general want to share ideas on migrating data that doesn’t quite fit the data model? I love hearing the many creative ideas people in the community – Yale and RAC foremost among them! – have come
up with for grappling with legacy data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Christine<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Christine Di Bella<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Community Outreach and Support Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:christine.dibella@lyrasis.org"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">christine.dibella@lyrasis.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">800.999.8558 x2905<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">678-235-2905<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">cdibella13 (Skype) </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Schwartz, Scott W<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group <archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] where are the boxes?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Pat and Maureen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I confess, as one of creators of Archon, the tone of your recent exchange to the list is getting a little tiresome. Having Matt’s problems with Aspace described as being a “victim” of the Archon migration script
is just plain silly. scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Scott W. Schwartz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Archivist for Music and Fine Arts and Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Sousa Archives and Center for American Music<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">1103 S. Sixth Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Champaign, IL 61820<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">217-333-4577<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">217-244-8695 (f)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">
archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> [<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Galligan, Patrick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] where are the boxes?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Strictly speaking, containers are not elements/levels of archival description, and really don’t belong in a components list with other levels of description (series, collection, file, etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Boxes are included in instances in AS, where they indicate the physical location. If you created an instance with a box number in ArchivesSpace, you would see it showing up to the right side of the component
list. It doesn’t look like you have instances for boxes and folders in your AS resource.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think Maureen Callahan of Yale encapsulated many of my feelings about containers and archival description in a blog post almost a year ago:</span>
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icantiemyownshoes.wordpress.com_2014_12_15_on-2Dcontainers_&d=BQMFAg&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=vT8n9m4tLaEaKeTnKcEFhoPv-EGCjFBVW30PCXY61ds&m=NHtvl-F_VKrvWyx4h_w3ei2C-HKDuXkVjfktUEVvX68&s=egQ-Q24CnkB4sM7fX5XiBV90UVfhLF9_lsqdHZFi5ec&e=">
https://icantiemyownshoes.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/on-containers/</a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Patrick Galligan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rockefeller Archive Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Assistant Digital Archivist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">914-366-6386<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
</span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
[</span><a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew J Gorzalski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Archivesspace_Users_Group] where are the boxes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Pardon my ignorance, but s ArchivesSpace supposed to include boxes as a part of the container (components?) list? These screen shots show the difference between the ASpace admin/public
view of a container list, which only lists only files. The other screen shot shows the Archon equivalent of the same collection, noting boxes in which the folders reside.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">MATT GORZALSKI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">University Archivist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:mgorzalski@lib.siu.edu"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">mgorzalski@lib.siu.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#660000">lib.siu.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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