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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear ArchivesSpace<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We are continuing to encounter the component re-ordering problem when we edit resources even though we have recently upgraded to the latest version of ArchivesSpace.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For example, we created a new resource record by importing an EAD XML finding aid to ArchivesSpace. We then started editing the resource record, creating new
components and moving existing components around the component hierarchy. Screenshots of the edited version, prior to closing the resource record, are attached (Set 1). As soon as the resource record was closed, many of the components re-ordered themselves
(see screenshots Set 2).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We then tried re-re-ordering the components, one change at a time (Edit - change – Close, Edit – change – Close, etc.). Following this method, the preferred
order of components did seem to ‘stick’. However, this is not a viable solution as this adds significantly to the time required to make even minor changes to resource records and will greatly hamper our use of ArchivesSpace for resource description and is
virtually impossible when dealing with some of our larger collections which have thousands of components in them.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This is extremely frustrating and means that we are unable to undertake any detailed work or data entry at component level of Resource Records as it is too
difficult to use. This is a <b>critical</b> <b>problem</b> for us as we are currently in a massive finding-aid project that requires extensive work on resource records.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is there any advice on the delivery of a solution to this problem? It seems to have been around for a long time and we would be extremely grateful to see an
urgent solution. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would be happy to log this as a Bug if someone could send me advice on how to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Emma<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Digital Archives, Pictures and Manuscripts Branch|National Library of Australia Canberra ACT 2600<br>
e: <a href="mailto:emma.jolley@nla.gov.au">emma.jolley@nla.gov.au</a>|t: 02 6262 1456|</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Fitzpatrick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 15 November 2014 9:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks for this and sorry about the pain this has been causing. A few points:
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1) Just to clarify, this isn't a 1.1.0 bug. It's actually affects all versions of AS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">2) Payton from Hudson Molongo's patch is included into github now, but I still need to write tests for it. If you want the fix now, you can do a fresh build on the current
version in github. and let us know if it works for you <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">3) In regards to process, I think the problem was that this was reported along with another similar issue involving instances re-ordering. Also, in trying to replicate
this issue, I mistakenly assumed that it was strictly a "drag-and-drop" issue and was missing the key edit part of the problem, so I wasn't able to see the problem immediately.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">But, regardless, we all need to make sure that PT tickets get made for any bug or feature request. If its not in PT, it's probably not going to be addressed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> I know not everyone has "create" access in Pivotal Tracker ( there's a license/cost issue there ), but there are quite a few colleagues who can submit tickets.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I'm also trying to think of ways we can ensure discussions generated here get captured into tickets, with good suggestions. Anyone have some suggestions on things that
work or that they think might work? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Let me know what you think.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">chris
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<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>>
on behalf of Ben Goldman <<a href="mailto:bmg17@psu.edu">bmg17@psu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 14, 2014 9:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black">Thanks to everyone who's been testing this and reporting back to the list. At Penn State we have not had a chance to test this yet as we haven't
upgraded to 1.1, but I would just add that this particular bug has led us to effectively freeze all data entry at the component level of resource records, because the results are just too unpredictable and difficult to remediate. I suspect that other ASpace
users might feel the same way. I would hope that ArchivesSpace could prioritize this fix for immediate release. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black">Thanks,<br>
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Digital Records Archivist<br>
Penn State University Libraries<br>
University Park, PA<br>
814-863-8333<br>
<a href="http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/speccolls.html">http://www.libraries.psu.edu/psul/speccolls.html</a><br>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">"Lora Davis" <<a href="mailto:ljdavis@colgate.edu">ljdavis@colgate.edu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Archivesspace Users Group" <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 14, 2014 3:43:19 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Yes, just to reiterate what Allyson, Elliot, and Teresa have shared - this happens at random but does not seem to be directly correlated (at least for
us) to actually dragging/dropping/moving components. A case in point: I've been going through and adding access restriction notes to various components within existing administrative collections. Last week I clicked on several existing components in a resource
record, added conditions governing access notes to those components, saved the changes, and went about the rest of my day. The following day I pulled up the resource to answer a reference question and, lo and behold, it appeared as if someone had dipped a
giant wooden spoon into the cauldron that was the collection and stirred all the components about in an infuriatingly nonsensical way to make component soup of our previously well-ordered resource record.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Payten - Thanks for sharing this code, but just to confirm, have you tested this fix against the scenario I describe (editing but not moving a component)?
I just want clarification since the description for your patch ("Patch for drag and drop causing record to lose position/parent") does not align with the primary problem we are encountering. Again, thanks for your hard work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Chris - Do we have a timeline for this release? We are seeing many benefits to our transition to ArchivesSpace, but this problem has been a constant
thorn in our sides since we first reported it in June. We had hoped that 1.1.0 would resolve this issue (as we'd been told it would), but we remain anxious for the day when we can rest assured that ArchivesSpace gnomes won't enter our resources at night and
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org" target="_blank">Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org</a>>
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Ah, awesome Payten.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I couldn't get this to replicate and was thinking it was something in the backend.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Will apply this and include it in the next release.
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<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">b,chris.
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<a href="http://archivesspace.org/" target="_blank">http://archivesspace.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> Payten Giles <<a href="mailto:payten.giles@gmail.com" target="_blank">payten.giles@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Fitzpatrick; Archivesspace Users Group <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hi there Chris, Allyson,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Eavesdropping a little bit and the guilt of writing this code became too much! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Chris, this looks like a little bug in the tree.js where we aren’t checking the correct node.. the comment says the right thing while the code does the
wrong thing. Here’s a gist of a potential patch:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://gist.github.com/payten/649819e7f08d0de3e945" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/payten/649819e7f08d0de3e945</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">To replicate I have a Resource hierarchy something like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I select and go to edit ‘AO Child 3’. When that form is visible I drag ‘AO Child 4’ above to become the first sibling. I then continue to edit ‘AO Child
3’ and refresh the page. ‘A0 Child 3’ is now positioned directly under ‘Resource’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Happy to put together a more formal pull request if you like.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Payten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On 11 Nov 2014, at 12:53 am, Chris Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org" target="_blank">Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hi Allyson,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Unfortuantely, I haven't been able to replicate the problem of component movements not sticking. See =><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In edit mode, I'm able to drag and drop components, reload the page, or go to the view page.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Is this happening for every record every time for you? Or is it an infrequent thing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Not doubting you ( I promise! ) , just trying to see when this is happening...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">b,chris. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace<br>
Skype: chrisfitzpat | Phone: <a href="tel:918.236.6048" target="_blank">918.236.6048</a><br>
<a href="http://archivesspace.org/" target="_blank">http://archivesspace.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>> on behalf of Allyson Smally <<a href="mailto:asmally@colgate.edu" target="_blank">asmally@colgate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 07, 2014 6:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Unfortunately, after upgrading to the newest release, we are still having this problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Archival objects are reordering themselves after being edited.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Is anyone else still having this problem? Does anyone know of a solution?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Thanks very much,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Allyson<br>
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Allyson E. Smally<br>
Processing Archivist<br>
Colgate University Libraries<br>
13 Oak Drive<br>
Hamilton, NY 13346<br>
<a href="tel:%28315%29%20228-7867" target="_blank">(315) 228-7867</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Ben Goldman <<a href="mailto:bmg17@psu.edu" target="_blank">bmg17@psu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">Archival object tree. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">"Chris Fitzpatrick" <<a href="mailto:Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org" target="_blank">Chris.Fitzpatrick@lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Archivesspace Users Group" <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:46:10 AM <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">Hey Ben,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">Soon, I promise!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">But just to check, are you talking about reording the archival object tree for the resource or the order of things like notes and subjects?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">b,chris. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace<br>
Skype: chrisfitzpat | Phone: <a href="tel:918.236.6048" target="_blank">918.236.6048</a><br>
<a href="http://archivesspace.org/" target="_blank">http://archivesspace.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Ben Goldman <<a href="mailto:bmg17@psu.edu" target="_blank">bmg17@psu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">Thanks, Allyson. I knew it sounded familiar!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">Do we have an ETA on the next release yet? :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To: </b>"Archivesspace Users Group" <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org" target="_blank">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:15:04 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] reordering objects in resource records<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">Yes, from what I understand this is a known issue. It has been happening to us a lot as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">At SAA this August, I was told it would be fixed in the next release.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Allyson E. Smally<br>
Processing Archivist<br>
Colgate University Libraries<br>
13 Oak Drive<br>
Hamilton, NY 13346<br>
<a href="tel:%28315%29%20228-7867" target="_blank">(315) 228-7867</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#212121">On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Ben Goldman <<a href="mailto:bmg17@psu.edu" target="_blank">bmg17@psu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">I've just experienced an issue and on a cursory search can't tell if it's been noted in PivotalTracker yet or discussed here yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#212121">I've been editing an inventory object-by-object in a resource record, saving each object as I updated it. In one instance I reordered one
of the objects by dragging it further down the tree, then continued editing other objects. Then I reached an object that could be removed, clicked to delete it, the resource reloaded in View mode, and the objects appeared to shuffle, and not seemingly in
the order I started with. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#888888">Ben Goldman</span></b><span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#888888"><br>
Digital Records Archivist<br>
Penn State University Libraries<br>
University Park, PA<br>
<a href="tel:814-863-8333" target="_blank">814-863-8333</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#212121">Allyson E. Smally<br>
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Colgate University Libraries<br>
13 Oak Drive<br>
Hamilton, NY 13346<br>
<a href="tel:%28315%29%20228-7867" target="_blank">(315) 228-7867</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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