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<p>Would it just make more sense to incorporate Jason's stead gem ( <a id="LPlnk312889" href="https://github.com/jronallo/stead">https://github.com/jronallo/stead</a> ) into ASpace as a CSV importer instead of the CSV->EAD->ASpace? </p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD instance issue</font>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Wouldn’t adding @id pairs to the STEADY output cause trouble for repositories that still need to use the AT multiple date and extent plugins (the BYU plugins)? For the near term,
we will still be using AT and the BYU plugins. For us, @id pairs will throw errors on import. Granted, we could incorporate workarounds to strip any STEADY created @id pairs.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">But, since the @id is not required by the EAD and is being considered here primarily to support a feature (and a GREAT one! I’m so looking forward to being able to import multiple
instances) for ArchivesSpace, I’d much rather see it addressed within ArchivesSpace importers ... rather than as a change to STEADY outputs.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">One of the nice things about STEADY is how (nearly) ready-to-go its EAD files are. We have other methods for importing from spreadsheets, particularly when round-tripping, but
STEADY is by far the easier option for new users and student projects. I’d really like to keep it as simple as possible!</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Custer, Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD instance issue</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">All,</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">So I fear that this is caused by my request to allow grouped containers to be imported into ArchivesSpace, since that was never possible with Archivists’ Toolkit. I’ll forward
this message to the creator of Steady, Jason Ronallo, to see if it would just be a simple change to include generated @id and @parent values on the container elements. So, in the example below, the EAD output could look like this, instead:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">(alternatively, if the @label attribute was only output once in this example, then that value could be used to do the grouping by the EAD importer, but I personally prefer to rely
on the @parent and @id attributes since those are the examples given in the EAD tag library,
<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.loc.gov/ead/tglib/elements/container.html">
http://www.loc.gov/ead/tglib/elements/container.html</a>)</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Another option would be for the ASpace importer to
<i>only</i> group containers when @id and @parent attributes are available. In other words, if those attributes aren’t part of the container elements, like they aren’t with the Steady-produced files, then those sibling containers should be considered a single
group (and if there are more than 3 sibling container elements, only the first 3 would be imported, which also mimics the AT’s behavior). I haven’t looked into the ASpace EAD importer yet, but I’ll see if I can’t find the relevant pieces of code that govern
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>MATTHEW R FRANCIS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD instance issue</span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Thank you for the quick and helpful response, it is greatly appreciated. I think your right about the cause for the change in behavior, and more importantly from my perspective your AT import/export WF recommendation looks like it
will work as a stop-gap process for us until there is a better way to proceed.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"; color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"; color:black">"Noah Huffman" <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:noah.huffman@duke.edu">noah.huffman@duke.edu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Archivesspace Users Group" <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:25:55 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD instance issue</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I just tested and confirmed the issue you describe. We use the same Excel->Steady->EAD->AT/ASpace workflow for large container lists, so this is also an issue for us.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I suspect the behavior is related to changes made in response to this ticket:
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https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/AR-751</a></span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">This isn’t a long term solution, but to achieve your desired result, you could import the XML output of Steady into Archivists Toolkit, then export EAD, then import to ArchivesSpace.
I just tested this and it works.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The AT Importer will create a single instance record for the box/folder and on export AT will assign @id and @parent attributes to the containers that communicate the parent/child
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Alternatively, you could somehow process the XML to assign @id and @parent to each container prior to import.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Something like:</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#404040">David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:black">
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archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> [<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>MATTHEW R FRANCIS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD instance issue</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">Sending through the listserv as the "Send Feedback" link does not properly function for our instance of ArchivesSpace and apologies in advance if this has already been discussed.</span></p>
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<span style="color:black">We are currently running ASpace v1.1.2 and have recently run into an issue with our EAD imports that we were not experiencing under previous versions (for full context we were previously running v1.0.9 before migrating to the current
version). Historically some of our workflows have relied on converting Excel collection container listings into EAD XML files through Steady (<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__steady2.herokuapp.com_&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=s7ciGQfUJeaV_ryx908hbeXDoU9aqDwDN0Z0VbfsJ3Y&m=fsFyKgFz0gzNJ4-L054MLtQb1rGgFEE3gczfb-PzjpE&s=x4gRIBeykmbWmcy1PGsfGBnRohA7DhS5fW_X9-7VlKA&e=" target="_blank">http://steady2.herokuapp.com/</a>) and
then importing into AT/ASpace. This is a workflow that we would like to remain an option moving into the future.</span></p>
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<span style="color:black">However, when importing one of these XML files in v1.1.2 we noticed that when there were two sets of container tags for an archival object in our XML that ASpace mapped the container data as two separate instances for the archival
object instead of a singular instance with two container types. For example here is the XML data for one of the archival objects:</span></p>
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<did><br>
<unittitle>Council Members Lists</unittitle><br>
<unitdate>undated</unitdate><br>
<container type="box" label="Text">1</container><br>
<container type="folder" label="Text">20</container><br>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">And when imported into ASpace the instance is now displaying as:</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">We are not sure what has caused this change with the current version, but from our workflows/resources perspectives it presents a challenge to our collection management practices. Would
appreciate any information on what might be causing this, if there is a recommended alternative approach to importing this type of EAD XML data, and/or if this is something that is pipeline to be worked on.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Thanks for the help and information.</span></p>
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