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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Nope, no error information in the log following the import Error block, which is why I was pointing it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My coworker tested later in the day with different XML files from AT and had the same issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Patrick Galligan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rockefeller Archive Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Assistant Digital Archivist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>914-366-6386<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Fitzpatrick<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD Import questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Patrick,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In regards to the import error, there should be error information following that inital "!!! Import Error !!!" block. Was there anything?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>b,chris. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=Signature><div name=divtagdefaultwrapper><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Chris Fitzpatrick | Developer, ArchivesSpace<br>Skype: chrisfitzpat | Phone: 918.236.6048<br><a href="http://archivesspace.org/">http://archivesspace.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a> <<a href="mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org">archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org</a>> on behalf of Custer, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark.custer@yale.edu">mark.custer@yale.edu</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 07, 2014 9:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Archivesspace Users Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD Import questions</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi, all.</span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Interesting stuff, Patrick. I haven’t had a chance to test out the new release candidate, but I hope to do that later this week.</span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I should note, though, that I was somewhat mistaken in my previous comment when I said that there was no way to group instances any longer. You can group the container elements if you rely on the @label attribute, which *<b>should</b>* only occur at the beginning of each container group. This practice depends on the EAD always being serialized in the correct document order, however, so this process is definitely not as fool proof as using the @id and @parent attributes, which follows the AT model (and the examples in the EAD 2002 tag library). I didn’t think about using @label earlier, but I later realized that that’s how the ArchivesSpace XSLT style sheets performs the container grouping (here’s a snippet from one of those style sheets: </span><span class=nt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:navy;background:white'><xsl:for-each-group</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333;background:white'> </span><span class=na><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:teal;background:white'>select=</span></span><span class=s><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#DF5000;background:white'>"ead:did/ead:container"</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333;background:white'> </span><span class=na><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:teal;background:white'>group-starting-with=</span></span><span class=s><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#DF5000;background:white'>".[@label]<a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">">)<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>. I’d certainly not prefer to rely upon the document order, though, if at all possible. Plus, IDs are much cooler!</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">All of that said, even though the AT could export these container groups correctly, you could not import those groups back into the AT database -- which, once again, essentially negated the option to assign multiple instances to a single level of description if you ever needed to export and re-import your data! I hope that ArchivesSpace will also fix this glaring issue, since I would definitely like to encourage the local practice of assigning multiple instances to a single level of description when appropriate (rather than describing things in multiple places in the finding aid, if the description really doesn’t warrant that duplication).<o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">Mark<o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">From:<span style='font-weight:normal'> archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org [mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org] </span>On Behalf Of <span style='font-weight:normal'>Galligan, Patrick<br></span>Sent:<span style='font-weight:normal'> Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:35 PM<br></span>To:<span style='font-weight:normal'> Archivesspace Users Group<br></span>Subject:<span style='font-weight:normal'> [Archivesspace_Users_Group] EAD Import questions</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">I’ve been playing around with the newest release candidate and I just had a couple of quick questions:<o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id"> <o:p></o:p></a></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="mailto:%22%3e). %20I'd%20certainly%20not%20prefer%20to%20rely%20upon%20the%20document%20order,%20though,%20if%20at%20all%20possible. %20Plus,%20IDs%20are%20much%20cooler!%0d %0dAll%20of%20that%20said,%20even%20though%20the%20AT%20could%20export%20these%20container%20groups%20correctly,%20you%20could%20not%20import%20those%20groups%20back%20into%20the%20AT%20database%20--%20which,%20once%20again,%20essentially%20negated%20the%20option%20to%20assign%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20if%20you%20ever%20needed%20to%20export%20and%20re-import%20your%20data! %20I%20hope%20that%20ArchivesSpace%20will%20also%20fix%20this%20glaring%20issue,%20since%20I%20would%20definitely%20like%20to%20encourage%20the%20local%20practice%20of%20assigning%20multiple%20instances%20to%20a%20single%20level%20of%20description%20when%20appropriate%20(rather%20than%20describing%20things%20in%20multiple%20places%20in%20the%20finding%20aid,%20if%20the%20description%20really%20doesn't%20warrant%20that%20duplication).%0d %0dMark%0d %0d %0d %0dFrom:%20archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org%20[mailto:archivesspace_users_group-bounces@lyralists.lyrasis.org]%20On%20Behalf%20Of%20Galligan,%20Patrick%0bSent:%20Tuesday,%20October%2007,%202014%202:35%20PM%0bTo:%20Archivesspace%20Users%20Group%0bSubject:%20[Archivesspace_Users_Group]%20EAD%20Import%20questions%0d %0dI've%20been%20playing%20around%20with%20the%20newest%20release%20candidate%20and%20I%20just%20had%20a%20couple%20of%20quick%20questions:%0d %0d1. %20A%20while%20back%20Mark%20Custer%20identified:%20“@id">1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>A while back Mark Custer identified: “@id</a></span><span style='color:#212121'> and @parent are not included on container elements in the EAD export, but they were with the AT. There is NO way to group instances any longer once an EAD file is created. This is a problem if we want to use multiple instances at any one level of description.” This issue is happening with EAD import as well, and causes problems when you export ead from AT and try to import it to AS. When a component has multiple instances AS tries to merge all of those instances into a single one. This is still happening on the latest release candidate. Is this on your guys’ radar?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='color:#212121'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#212121'> </span><span style='color:#212121'>In a recent EAD test I exported EAD from AT and imported it into AS. According to the import log, AS finished step 5 (Cleaning) but failed and threw this up:<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:15.0pt;background:#333333;word-break:break-all'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#33EE33'>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:15.0pt;background:#333333;word-break:break-all'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#33EE33'> </span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:15.0pt;background:#333333;word-break:break-all'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#33EE33'>IMPORT ERROR:</span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:.5in;line-height:15.0pt;background:#333333;word-break:break-all'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#33EE33'>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span style='color:#212121'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#212121'>What is the system trying to tell me here?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'>Patrick Galligan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'>Rockefeller Archive Center<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'>Assistant Digital Archivist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'>914-366-6386<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#212121'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>